LBR X Retrosode 8: Christmas Gab Bag

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2020 is the 10th anniversary of the Longbox Review podcast, and to celebrate, I am spotlighting 10 episodes from the archive. This is a rebroadcast of episode 129 from 2017 where George from the Meanwhile at the Podcast and I talk about some Christmas themed or related comic books.

Thank you for supporting the podcast over these 10 years.

Original post: https://longboxreview.com/2017/12/18/podcast-129-christmas-gab-bag/

RetroRead: Marvel Two-in-One

A few years back, I decided I wanted to read those old team-up books I enjoyed in my youth, like Marvel Team-Up and DC Comics Presents.I recalled enjoying those done-in-one stories starring a favorite character and someone else from the Marvel or DC universe. I figured I couldn’t get every issue, so I decided to try to get only those issues guest-starred characters I liked or were interested in. One of those books that I didn’t have a whole lot of experience with was Marvel Two-in-One, starring the Thing and a guest each month. So, over time I bought the following issues:

  • 3: Daredevil
  • 5: Guardians of the Galaxy
  • 17: Spider-Man
  • 30: Spider-Woman
  • 32: Invisible Girl
  • 37: Matt Murdock
  • 38: Daredevil
  • 39: Vision
  • 40: Black Panther
  • 45: Captain Marvel
  • 50: Thing
  • 51: Some Avengers and Nick Fury
  • 61: Starhawk
  • 63: Warlock?
  • 69: Guardians of the Galaxy
  • 84: Alpha Flight
  • 85: Spider-Woman
  • 86: Sandman
  • 90: Spider-Man

Reading through these, the first thing (heh) I realized was that this comic book was a stealth Thing ongoing series! These were not done-in-one stories like I thought (I mean some were, but still) with some stories spanning three issues. And now my dilemma is this, some of these multi-part stories I quite enjoyed but I am missing a piece of the puzzle, and that hurts my comic book obsessive brain. I guess I should have tried to get all of the issues after all.

The second thing was that some of these team-ups were not. Spider-Woman was more of an adversary in #30 and Vision in #39 was an imposter (except for maybe a panel or three). If these were done-in-one stories, I’d be more irritated by that but because they were one part of a larger story, I guess I can forgive the false advertisement. :)

The third thing is that the Thing is not a very likable character. He has this reputation for being a gruff, but lovable guy, but I mostly found him to be a petulant man-child. But what I did find endearing in Ben is his love for Alicia Masters, which is an ongoing part of this series.

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While some of these issues are just not that great, I wanted to highlight a few that I enjoyed. #37-39 is one of those three-part stories that was interesting, especially because of the legal component (and remember when comics would/do compress something that would take months into mere panels?) and the focus on Matt over Daredevil, at least for part of the story.

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Issue 50 was one of the few done-in-one stories where Thing travels back in time to give himself a Reed Richards developed formula that would have cured past Ben. Of course, in the mighty Marvel tradition, past Thing fights present Thing for several pages before present Thing wins and administers the elixir to the unconscious Thing, curing him. Thing returns to the present to find himself unchanged, and Reed explains that all Thing did was create an alternate timeline. Thing comforts himself by complimenting his current rocky appearance over the “dinosaur hide” he used to have. I’ll keep this issue for sure.

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Another one I’ll keep is #69, which is an issue of the series that I bought when it was first published but let go at some point. This was probably my third exposure to the Guardians of the Galaxy (after Avengers #177 and Marvel Team-Up #86) and I found the time travel aspect involving Vance Astro interesting, especially the “fog” that’s created because of the proximity of the two Vances and their mental powers. Also, Vance Astro is one of those characters I’ve wanted to read more about especially because of this issue and eventually when Marvel made the younger Vance (as Justice) a member of the Avengers.

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Finally, #86. Here Sandman has had enough. When Thing happens upon him in a bar and starts to trash the place in anticipation of the fight to come, Sandman tells Thing to arrest him. This surprises Thing enough that they get to talking. We learn about Sandman’s history as a poor kid growing up on the mean streets, his love that he ends up losing, and his various run-ins with New York’s superheroes. After hearing Sandman’s story, Thing buys the next round and leaves, telling Sandman he has an opportunity for a fresh start. This comic, or rather its cover, inspired me to write a similar scene in a short story. I’m glad I was finally able to read the issue that contributed to that story.

What about your experience with Marvel Two-in-One? What were your favorite issues and why? Comment below!

Retro Review: Adventure Comics #459

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Pulled from the longbox, I talk about Adventure Comics (v1) #459 (cover date September/October 1978). This dollar comic format featured six “all-new super-star features,” including the Flash, Deadman, Green Lantern, the New Gods, Elongated Man, and Wonder Woman. Let’s find out if it’s really a “fabulous first issue–launching the most exciting new comic of the decade!”

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Podcast 134: Retro Review: The Brave and the Bold #182

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Pulled from the longbox, I talk about one of my favorite issues in my collection: The Brave and the Bold #182 (cover date January 1982).

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Reading Pile: JLA vs JLA

I have a long list of trades sitting on my bookshelves that I’m slowly working my way through. One of these was a collection of JLA (1997-2006). Because I wasn’t reading that many comics in the late 90s, I missed my chance at jumping on board the Grant Morrison, Howard Porter, and John Dell issues, but at some point I bought the A New World Order collection of the first four issues. I enjoyed it, and decided that I would get the trades if I could do so cheaply. But when I got the Tower of Babel collection (which was probably the third trade that I got), I was hooked. I finally started buying the monthly issues, starting with #103, which was part of the “Pain of the Gods” storyline. Of course, the series then ended with #125. In the meantime, I was still getting trades. It took a while, but I finally got everything up to when I was getting the monthly issues.

I’ve spent the last year or so catching up, reading a few trades back to back. The Grant Morrison/Howard Porter stories are fantastic, and redefined what these heroes could be in the DCU. Mark Waid and Bryan Hitch’s work was interesting. But then came Joe Kelly and Doug Mahnke.

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I thought no one could top Morrison as far as idea/story, but I was wrong. Kelly/Mahnke take what was built before to another level. The stories are bombastic and personal at the same time. On top of that, we got some meanderings into moral and subjective territory (“Golden Perfect”), and the beginnings of the Wonder Woman/Batman relationship, to name just a few things. Also, Mahnke threw in some wonderful visuals and gags.

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There are many things to love about the run by Kelly and the artists involved. Here are some items from each story that I loved.

“Two-Minute Warning”

  • The scene where Bats and Diana are sparring while Batman makes call after call (he’s multitasking).
  • Also, this:

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“Bouncing Baby Boy”: Besides generally believing in Plastic Man, Batman even told PM that out of everybody in the group, he thought that PM would be the best father. This relationship would play out some more in a future story.

The Obsidian Age

  • After the JLA have been sent back in time, Batman initiates a replacement protocol to bring in others as JLAers, but the best part (as a Nightwing fan) was this:

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  • I love it when Nightwing gets a chance to shine with the League. He even puts loudmouth Green Arrow in his place:

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  • When I first got to the introduction of the ancient, Atlantean League, I thought how cool it would be to read more stories of their exploits in the DCU, but of course they’re the adversaries of the story.
  • I mentioned the WW/Bats relationship, and here is where we find out that Batman has a crush:

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  • The ending to issue #73 where Flash is captured by the “bad” League and his legs are torn off! (I actually missed that the first time I read that page and was still shocked at the image when I looked at it again.)
  • In fact, the time-displaced JLAers all end up dead. Not sort of dead. Not pretending to be dead. They are killed in the past. Oh sure, they get better through magic, but it takes 3000 years! That was ballsey storytelling.
  • Finally, after the resurrection and the day is saved, we get this beautiful father-son moment:

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Rules of Engagement

This story gets a little heavy-handed regarding politics, but it’s still an interesting examination of what happens when superheroes interfere with a sovereign entity, even if it is an alien one, and the debate the League has among its members was interesting to read. Meanwhile, Diana keeps pressing Bruce to talk about them. Speaking of relationships, Martian Manhunter has formed a partnership with Scorch to help him overcome his issue with fire, and they end up kissing at the end of the collection.

Trial by Fire

  • The whole Scorch thing turns out to be really bad for J’onn, but starts out having a positive effect on the world, and even Batman. On a visit to Arkham, all of his rogues are in despair over what they’ve done. In fact, Joker is crying, begging to die. Batman’s response?

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  • Later, when it’s revealed that a genetic block that was removed turned JJ into Fernus, Superman tells the League what we’ve all known, but few want to admit:

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  • The JLAers do what they can to stop Fernus, but he’s just too powerful. So much so, in fact, that even Batman doesn’t know what to do next.

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  • Fortunately, Plastic Man is back to help save the day, proving that the faith that Batman had in him was justified, but it was really Scorch who was the hero and the only one who truly sacrificed to keep the world safe. While the whole “Fernus was a genetically separate entity than J’onn” bit allowing J’onn to be absolved of sin was a bit of a cop out, it was interesting to see how bad ass a Martian can be.

The Tenth Circle

Speaking of bad, let’s talk briefly of the Chris Claremont and John Byrne arc, The Tenth Circle.

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I will admit, when I had read that Byrne was doing JLA, I almost jumped on board with the monthly issues then, but a friend warned me it wasn’t that great. Boy, was he right. After reading such engaging stories before this, The Tenth Circle was boring schlock. It felt so dated, and the dialog was stiff, and there was nothing inventive at all here, not the least of which was the vampire antagonist. Sheesh. Who knows, perhaps there was some editorial meddling that brought this arc down, but somehow I doubt it. What an unfortunate way to end such a good reading run.